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Leslie Desmond
Jan 02, 2021
In Bill's Book Discussion
From: "True Horsemanship Through Feel" by Bill Dorrance and Leslie Desmond Q: “Why is this approach not widely known and available?” Bill: "It seems that this approach we’re talking about isn’t better known because some people can get by without it. And others are just trying to get by without it because they haven’t seen anyone work this way with a horse. People get the urge to pull on those horses because they don’t know what else to do. One things for sure, most people are handling horses the best way they know how. But if they aren’t using feel, I’ll just say it’s not a very good way. That’s because the horse and the person can do a whole lot better than that. It isn’t that people are dumb or don’t want to do better. No, when they have the opportunity to see someone operate a horse this other way, then I’d say most people can understand that there’s a difference just by watching it. This feel were talking about is something a lot of people can just sense by watching a demonstration. It’s what gets a lot of people started. What they really get from watching is a start on understanding how good it can be for the horse, and for them, too. After people see a horse handled or ridden with feel, I am in hopes that they can get some good supervision [Pg. 358]. And another thing that’s really helpful is when people get an opportunity to learn how it feels to ride and handle a horse that’s been started this way. When this can happen, it’s very best way for them to learn. Generally speaking, an amazing change can take place in a persons attitude about horses after they’ve had an opportunity to handle or ride a horse that’s been prepared [Pg. 344] this way." Note: To compose and PUBLISH, or comment to this post click the either the "Comment" or "Following Post" button (above right) to JOIN FOAH free. Thanks!
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Leslie Desmond
Dec 14, 2020
In Bill's Book Discussion
From: "True Horsemanship Through Feel” By Bill Dorrance and Leslie Desmond Q: Are there any problems that can't be fixed with this approach? Bill: This approach will fix any horse or any human being with his horse. It will fix them. It depends on how long it takes a person to learn how to apply feel [Pp. 318-322]. Anytime you run into something that bothers a horse, why you welcome that. There's an opportunity there for that horse to learn about the basics. When that life comes up in him and he's got real interest in being away from someplace, why that's a good time to get with the feel of that horse so he can pick up your feel. You wouldn't use any firmness [Pg. 322] to go against the life that comes up in him. No, that's when you'd flow along with what was flowing along inside of him, in terms of his energy and the way he's got it tied to his concern for self-preservation [Pg. 354]. Let's say that you come to a big ditch. You want to take him into it an an angle so the horse can learn to travel through it and then come out the other side, down a little ways. There's no rush for this. When you have a little time to work on anything that's bothering to the horse, why it's very beneficial. There'd be no speaking about punishing a horse if a problem came up for him, not by any means. This is what we're trying to stay entirely away from. Note: To compose and PUBLISH, or comment to this post click the "Comment" or "Following Post" button (above right) to JOIN FOAH free. Thanks!
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Leslie Desmond
Dec 10, 2020
In Bill's Book Discussion
From: "True Horsemanship Through Feel" with B ill Dorrance and Leslie Desmond Q: "Why does this [feel] approach [with horses] work? Bill: "Horses have a lot more intelligence and emotions than most people would suppose. They enjoy being comfortable, and it’s their natural curiosity and searching frame of mind that causes them to feel for [Pp. 318-322] meaning in what a person does. Like I spoke about earlier in this book, horses are real sensitive and feel is all they have to go on. When a person and a horse learn [Pg. 334] to feel of each other, why then, it’s going to work out better for the horse, and the person, too.” Note: To compose and PUBLISH, or comment to this post click the "Comment" or "Following Post" button (above right) to JOIN FOAH free. Thanks!
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Leslie Desmond
Dec 10, 2020
In Bill's Book Discussion
Note: To compose and PUBLISH, or comment to this post click the either the "Comment" or "Following Post" button (above right) to JOIN FOAH free. Thanks! A little bit of history . . . The original, 1300+ member group worked together from 2000 - 2012. In the link below, I explained how the revival and re-launch of Bill’s Book “True Horsemanship Through Feel” discussion group works — for this second time around! Some of you remember that a Yahoo Group with a similar name was started in Oslo in 2000. Almost 20,000 copies of Bills book were newly published and in circulation at the time. The timely emergence of this study group was an instantly smashing success. It was growing and enjoyed continuously by its eventual 1,300+ members. For many reasons, interest tapered off about 12 years later. The archives remained accessible, but the activities ceased and the membership lay dormant until Yahoo shut the doors for good on their old discussion groups last January. If you cannot join me soon for this live announcement, today’s recorded introduction and invitation will remain posted on this group, and shared with the other group and pages I oversee. You are certainly welcome to forward it along to other groups and that permit an announcement of this kind, if you wish. NOTE: Details of what to expect, when, where, and from whom will be explained, and in the hope that people who want to get acquainted with the underlying philosophy and beliefs Bill advocated will find satisfaction. I have experienced myself the distinctly special enjoyment that is possible when an opportunity to learn in the company of like minded horse lovers becomes available. For those who are ready to dig into this collection of work, now is the time. Bill’s words were out in print for this reason. His message and methods are still very much alive and available to anyone who seeks them. Sometimes people say that this manual holds the “secrets” of Bill Dorrance’s life’s work, but this isn’t true. If it were a secret, for sure this knowledge wouldn’t have been published. He hoped it would be put to use as soon as possible. I want that every person who desires to better understand the way horses show us how they think and feel and need from us, can find out about and join in this discussion . . . . to lurk and listen, or to watch, reflect, and contribute ... as it suits each person best. So we all are clear about one important point: please respect that mention of other trainers and approaches to horses is best saved for discussion in another forum. The people mobilizing for this sharing seek information that is geared and aimed expressly for results that accrue to those who are ready to invest the time it takes to study the teachings that Bill left to us through his written and spoken words, photographs and videos. This is intended to function well as an open, largely self-monitored public discussion. Monthly selections for study and discussion will be provided by the discussion Moderator, Karen Musson and Richard Weinberg. FOAH Team members Antonio Hidalgo, Cody Deering, and I will provide supporting video content for this discussion each month. See you soon, all are most welcome. Leslie https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=2722550971318355&ref=notif&notif_id=1606836705589014&notif_t=live_video Note: To compose and PUBLISH, or comment to this post click the either the "Comment" or "Following Post" button (above right) to JOIN FOAH free. Thanks!
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